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it’s not post-pandemic. it’s post-vaccination. that’s what they really mean, but won’t say. and even then that’s not accurate because the vax process hit a plateau but isn’t close to finished, and boosters are now a guaranteed future.

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@Moss and even if there's regions or countries that don't wind up needing boosters, the rest of that is still true

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@Moss there's some kind of power struggle bullshit happening around boosters, but like a lot of things with covid, it's evolving in real time. both the vaccine itself and what the response is

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@poiseunderchaos i bet there’s gonna be j&j irnpfizer-specific boosters, and we have to maintain brand loyalty in our healthcare now too

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@Moss that seems to be the struggle at the moment -- pharma saying "we want booster authorization as in a second or third dose", depending on the type of vaccine, and feds saying "there's no proof that's effective"

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@Moss with the media alternating between "saying a thing doesn't mean the thing is real, that's science working out what is real or not" and presenting takes as if they're real or realish, because deadlines or whatever

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@Moss YEP.

And it's looking like the worst fears are playing out, that the massive numbers of unvaccinated people are leading to mutations in the spike protein which makes the vaccine less effective. The delta variant is just the beginning.

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@fluffy anyone who ain’t see this comin got their eyes closed. it’s why i’m so reticent to lower my protocols too much this year.

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@Moss Oh absolutely. I still mask indoors, and even outdoors when interacting with strangers, even if we both are vaccinated. I only relax my masking when it comes to outdoor groups of friends who are all vaccinated, and some of them will remain masked and that's totally fine.

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@Moss Could you direct me to a link about what you mean on that last point?

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@Anarkat i don’t have sources i’m just reading the room

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@Moss Oh, I see, I misunderstood what you meant.

Based off the conflicting advice of the vaccine manufacturers themselves, and the lack of any particular direction by the cdc on the matter?

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@Anarkat it’s just virus logic: not enough people vaccinated, virus still spreads, so it mutates, and vaxed people are vulnerable, and a new spike protein needs to be targetted with a new dose

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@Moss Makes sense to me. The lack of widespread vaccination has been an ongoing concern of my own, too.

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@Anarkat yeah white soccer moms really did a lotta damage in the last few decades

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