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"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

I actually did like it, quite a bit, so much so that I basically watched the whole series in the last two weeks. but it became less interesting to me after the noir-styled storyline fell off and James Holden—possibly sci-fi's most egregious Mary Sue With No Distinguishing Characteristics, which is saying something for a genre replete with them—takes over as the main character

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

also the treatment of Belter Creole is really disappointing; at the beginning of the show the way the language is used and portrayed seems consistent and thoughtful, but by the third season it's basically just devolved into "can you sorta fake Cockney but do it-a rit-a-mit-a-cally like dis? but if you can't no worries, just talk weird however you can"

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"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish so… you recommend to only watch the first season?

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@meena I'd recommend the whole series if it seems like it could be your thing! there isn't some particular point in the series after which I would say "don't bother watching past this"

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@meena @aparrish I would say season 2 is a bit of a low point. Gets better again in 3.

the expanse season 2 SPOILER 

@meena @aparrish with one season 2 exception: Bobby, who’s from Mars, seeing them ocean 🌊on Earth for the first time is the single most awe-inspiring moment in the series

re: "i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish Belter Creole was enriched by Nick Farmer for the TV show and has more depth than the books because they started the books before Nick was involved, IIRC. It's a creole mixture of Chinese, Japanese, Slavic, and Germanic, and a few others for borrowing specific words (Zulu, Afrikaans) -- the languages that will probably survive in the future.

I think the lead actors did a great job with it, but not so much for the others. I think they struggled with their own accents bleeding through too much. I still enjoy it for what it is.

Nick used to do a word of the day under the hashtag #WowtLangBeltafoTudiye and would take requests translating words to Belter.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/02/nick-farmer-knows-dozens-of-languages-so-he-invented-one-for-the-expanse/


(The books are better, but I still have a lot of hope for future seasons of the show)

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish there's a lot to like in the series, though i haven't really kept up with it - but the depiction of holden and the rocinante crew's sorta overall dynamic seems to me like it loses something from the books, which are among my favorite popcorn novels of the last little while...

this isn't to say that book-holden is all that interesting, exactly, but everyone is more likeable / believable as a family unit, i guess?

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@brennen I would like to read the books for said popcorn reasons but I don't think I'd buy them and there's a 14-week expected hold period for the ebook at NYPL :(

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish pretty sure i have paper copies of the first one or two i could put in the mail, if you wanted. media mail would probably run me all of $3.

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@brennen haha whoops I didn't mean to go fishing. if it came down to it I'm sure I could get them used cheap from a local place or online. it just feels like it would it would be an ideal "read a few paragraphs on your phone when you're on the subway" kind of book

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish heh, no worries - i just have been in a mailing-stuff-to-people mode of late.

but yeah, a good subway read: not a lot of cognitive overhead and good spaceships.

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish at a certain point I assumed that hating holden was the point of his presence

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish So much of that show flattens out into a thin gruel by even the beginning of S02 that I struggle to care about continuing. Which is sad because I like some of what they're doing. There's pretty-convincing wear on some of the Belter accoutrements, e.g., Thomas Jane's character's iPhone. But...I don't know.

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@aparrish I think the books do a better job because of the alternating POV writing style which allows the other characters to shine more. The most recent one hardly features Holden at all. I'm personally still looking forward to the new Amazon season at there are some great new characters in the books post the opening of gates.

"i don't like thing / ok" re: the expanse (tv show) 

@stsquad i think part of the problem is that the tv series always seems really eager to assert that Holden Is In The Middle Of Everything, which makes him seem like the POV character even when he isn't on screen. good to know that the books aren't like that as much!

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