Friend Camp has about 50 active users and I just noticed we have more than half a million posts here since August 2018! I mean that's 11 a day per person on average but still. That seems wild to me.
Last I checked something like 75% of our posts are unfederated. That's still 125 thousand posts sent to the fediverse. I think local-only posting increases the vitality of community, increasing the volume of overall activity, and contributing more to the fediverse than a less vital instance would.
@darius I'm intrigued by this idea, and a big believer in the positive effects of interacting in small(er) community groups.
In real-life community is everywhere, and ppl + communities interact in a complex social fabric.
I feel community might be better expressed online, and for a while I'm posting about a "Community has no Boundary" paradigm.
On SocialHub I mention an AS/AP vocab extension on top of Group + Actor.
Would be great to have your input on the topic.
One thing to consider is whether communities explicitly defined allow for taking the concept next-level on the fediverse.
Now it is mostly implicit i.e. instance boundary, discourse forum, etc.
An explicit definition as a domain model, allows modeling things on top of that when needed, such as Membership + Roles, or Governance.
( @hamishcampbell started talk on the latter which - if federated - would require a meta-model AP extension to define policies. See https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/what-would-a-fediverse-governance-body-look-like/1497/51 )
No, I wasn't aware. It looks like a great concept. With your permission I will reference this toot on SocialHub.. is there a link to these docs I can also include?
Community domain should be quite basic. Probably instance-bound initially, crossing instance barriers later on.
Ppl from #valueflows are also interested: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/standardizing-on-a-common-community-domain-as-ap-extension/1353/16
Others too, probably. Solid community?
@humanetech @grishka @hamishcampbell here you can link this! https://gist.github.com/dariusk/53cf4c52d499304c53df4a3839ad0e00
A great article that is related to this is now on frontpage of HN:
It's in context of game design, but the social relationships explained are interesting well beyond that.
redaktor had a nice meeting together with Lynn and Bob, valueflows and Mayel of https://bonfirenetworks.org
re. the SOLID community we had a meeting with Angelo Veltens (SOLID core dev).
Yesterday we had a very nice official SocialCG meeting where Dimitri also said, he would be interested in connecting AP/SOLID. Angelo prepared a kind of a TODO list as he knows every detail about SOLID. 1/3
However, with 8 people recently we failed for public funding the 10th time [NGI0 3rd time] and from now on redaktor is working with VC money :( so that valueflows or SOLID became less important **unfortunately** …
Always named friend.camp and Hometown as brilliant examples in funding applications :)
You wrote “people in your own vetted server who all abide by the same rules as you” and @redchrision said : 2/3
“so when you as an admin were peering with another instance you are showing your set of values, and if that other instance believes that they are sharing those values, that instance can peer with you” and redaktor would like to do this as well. Had a meeting with Cristina too cause for redaktor would like to work on a trust pattern everybody can use.
yes. And I would like the idea of having an interoperable set of human values and principles so that it would also work e.g. Hometown <-> redaktor –
also talked with Dr. Henderson of St. Andrews …
Some ideas for redaktor regarding limiting power and establishing trust (it's a mess) :
@jalcine my patreon is where I occasionally post ideas like.... every three months tops. Don't feel obligated, you'll get the good updates just following what I release!
@bekopharm Not entirely but semantically yeah! They have a concept of rooms an groups now (which works like the messaging and forums equivalents). By design, it's more like "I know you personally and directly" versus "I know you and the community you stay in so everyone in that set is cool" @darius @humanetech @hamishcampbell
@jalcine gotta admit I never tried it myself after reading about it (on the Fediverse) last year.
Can't dance everywhere 😜
@bekopharm Very true! I do wish someone (I might do this soon, lol) did some sort of "What's New?" roll-up once a week in each space. That's the kind of news I'm interested in!
@darius Local-only posting has been pretty helpful over here as well! It is not used as frequently, but people still find it comforting not to share their rants with the entire world sometimes.
And the admin team certainly appreciates not being judged on their moderation actions by people who are not on the instance -- however cowardly that might be from us.
Hometown is a really awesome fork in general, and I am most excitedly awaiting the update.
Hometown is adapted from Mastodon, a decentralized social network with no ads, no corporate surveillance, and ethical design.