Everything *else* aside, having a government account hosted on a community server seems an awful lot like having a government website hosted at something like
if you like websites that have the energy of, say,
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@darius It looks great that EU has their own Mastodon server running: https://social.network.europa.eu/@EU_Commission/108220439624357877
@darius @zundan @egallager Seems to date back to April, when the Musk Twitter deal was made: https://uk.pcmag.com/social-media/140088/eu-joins-mastodon-social-network-sets-up-its-own-server
@zundan do you know how they went about setting that up? Their profile says it's "part of an EU pilot for supporting and using social media platforms based on open-source software"; do you have the language for establishing that pilot program?
@egallager I'm sorry I don't know any further than what is publicly available. I guess they are still trying Mastodon out and may stop running it.
Meanwhile rumors are that VW is on mastodon.social
Nowhere there is notice that they are on mastodon.social. Just "Mastodon". So I guess someone at brands.town might appear more legit if they start with content.
@darius I think of it as similar to the government putting up a poster in a privately owned public meeting place (with permission), which doesn't strike me as that strange.
Edit: Or maybe like a booth at a private conference, that's probably a bit better analogy wise because it involves interaction.
@darius it is like they are going about this in a way to hit every single item on "checklist of flags we train people to look for in spotting fakes for phishing attempts" and i'm not even remotely in the field, yet i keep needing to stare into the middle distance about it
@darius Though ...
Like the government is normally really slow at being allowed to do anything, so it's quite possible it'll take them a few months to actually get approval to host an instance.
So maybe letting neutral or better entities on somewhere as test case, and then saying after the trial period is over and if this works out for your group you should host your own thing elsewhere?
(Like I thought who ever was running the IRStaxsecurity feed on twitter was doing a good job with their PSAs. https://nitter.nl/IRStaxsecurity/ )
@darius but on the other hand, i would feel a lot safer interacting with a government account if i knew it didn't have immediate database access
@nightpool i think it's reasonable to want oversight before a government is able to read every post an instance has received regardless of visibility's setting
personally i would not knowingly federate with any government-run fediverse instance that had jurisdiction over my users for this reason, which means the only way a government account would EVER be able to reach us would be if it was on an instance whose administration i trusted to not allow that
@Lady I guess i'm not really sure what posts a government-run instance would receive besides ones like, directed to them? What posts are you imagining people sending to the EU instance besides like, people the EU orgs follow?
@darius i didn't bookmark it, but i surfed the web sites of many municipalities in western PA and i'm pretty at least one of them was hosted on Tripod.
@SuperDicq @darius That’s actually the norm in #Belgium. The /government/ actually uses outlook.com for official business. Most people don’t realize it because they mask it with a vanity domain. If you do an MX lookup you’ll find most Belgian gov agencies use MS #Outlook. Even the Belgian data protection office! But they are a bit more sneaky-- you only see MS in the headers if they email you.
@SuperDicq @darius It’s not favorable that they mask the email server. Government should be transparent. People dealing with the gov should be made well aware that their possibly sensitive email is being handled by #Microsoft Corporation. Most of the population is blind to that sharing with tech giants.
@darius how would a government go about setting up its own server? I'm filing a bunch of FOSS-related legislation here in NH and am wondering if maybe I should add something about social media services...
@egallager excellent question and I imagine it would be related to the process for setting up a web server! and clearly very different in different countries, states, and local jurisdictions
@codex oh hey have we met? It's a small enough state that even if we haven't met, we're probably only separated by 2 degrees of separation...
@egallager I don’t think in person but we were twitter mutual, and i was pretty involved with NHYD a couple years back :)
HM Treasury's Discord Moderation Fiasco, including the announcement tweet and rude emoji reactions they neglected to prevent.
@darius Or like that time that H.M. Treasury set up a discord.
@darius this is also how I feel about celebrities joining general-purpose instances. Like an actor coming to town for a star-studded film festival and staying on someone's couch.
Its just a stopgap until they can give Lockheed a $77m contract to stand up a mastodon instance
@darius it does seem like ol' MeowJin had a long and happy life, 17 years is a very respectable old age for a cat.
@darius in all seriousnessness, that is entirely correct; I'm just too prone to impulsive easy jokes. Sorry.
@darius Agreed, but I think it's understandable in the short run: getting permission to create an official account on a 3rd-party site is probably pretty straightforward; getting permission to stand up a server (or server-like container), obtain a subdomain, update DNS, get the application STIG'd and approved, and deploy the application to the Internet… I bet that's at least 6-12 months, easy.
Mastodon makes it fairly easy to migrate accounts in the future, so it seems reasonable.
Hometown is adapted from Mastodon, a decentralized social network with no ads, no corporate surveillance, and ethical design.