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We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

please let me know what you think!! I might have a few changes to it...not sure if i'll blast this out on Twitter tomorrow morning or not (feels like everyone over there has has moved to despair/acceptance...)

It was originally written for Wired so the voice was a little stuffy (and I tried to unstuff it a little bit with the final changes I just made)

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

i figured there was something beautifully defeatist about posting this to Medium...

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc Thanks for this! I liked the short paragraph about the doomsday affect on twitter and the question of its resilience -- would be curious to get more of your thoughts there on how users' vs corp boards' relations to a platform matter very differently. Also, toward end, podcasting's current status came to mind as another arg for the plausibility of a general RSS revival.

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@andy thank you for reading!!
i'd love to see a single example where users had as much ultimate say as corp boards ....
and that's a good point. it's funny how podcasts and newsletters get mocked but you have so much more control over what you media you produce in those instances, at least, relative to what you post to twitter (although, Apple Podcasts is it's own set of worries....)

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc yeah the race to solidly platformize podcasting is certainly concerning. my understanding is dynamic ad-injection is the end goal, which is kind of funny because my diss will cover how google tried to basically do the same thing to terrestrial radio in 2006 and failed disastrously. I feel like it might be headed toward failure with podcasts too, which would be so heartening.

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@andy interesting!! i'm always so delighted to see the podcasts that seem to have like twelve listeners (all people they know IRL) and then a million episodes in the archives. that feels like social media too even if it's not talked about that way...

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc totally! and such a strong counter to the "network effect" pessimism that's prevailing over on twitter, as you alluded to up-thread. like it's not only possible to broadcast among a tiny audience (or to no one), it might actually be a lot more fun than griping about how that'll never work...

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc haha! I was tempted to be the guy to point that out but thankfully you beat me to it.

On the flipside, you need to post to corporate social media to reach those still stuck there. It's like smuggling stuff, cd's, and letters into north korea, etc.

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@esi @jomc
yeah, and instead of a north korean soldiers it's musk banning all mention of mastodon on twitter, or something along those lines.

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@fearandloathingintheprovinz @jomc Mastodon urls are already shadowbanned on Facebook for example and have been for a long while. don't know about Twitter.

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc oh thank god you picked up on this. I really didn't want to be *that dude who says, "but you participate in society"*.
@austin kindly pointed you at scribe.rip. May I also suggest taking a look at write.as or plume as a fediverse host for your writing? You can then host on fedi and syndicate to Medium et al, linking back to your fedi post.

@stevelord Maybe that's an advice more for @jomc as they're the one that writes, not me lol (but I am indeed aware of write.as/writefreely)

@jomc
> feels like everyone over there has has moved to despair/acceptance

The fediverse has seen a few waves of refugees come in from Titter over the last few years and this is usually the way it goes. A fraction of them decide this place suits them better and stay, and there tends to be some new instances set up that stick around. But most folks realize that most of their Titter friends aren't here and aren't coming, and eventually drift back.

As @doctorow put it:

"If you like someone else's moderation policies better than Twitter's, you might still hang around on Twitter, because that's where all the people you want to talk to are hanging out. What's more, the people who you want to talk to are still on Twitter because you're there. It's a kind of mutual hostage-taking."

- #CoryDoctorow, 2021

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/01/twitter-and-interoperability-some-thoughts-peanut-gallery

@jomc

@strypey @doctorow @jomc
to underline your point, i'm not sure if i would've switched over here if i wouldn't have gotten banned from the hellsite recently. i could've always made a new account, but why do that on there and not here?

@fearandloathingintheprovinz
What did Titter ban you for and was that before or after the Muskocalypse?

@doctorow @jomc

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc I think this sums up the problem well. Unlike many of us who write about this as evangelists for existing decentralized networks like the 'verse, you've explained the potential solution in general terms, without getting lost in the weeds of particular solutions (ActivityPub, matrix, XMPP etc). The only thing I'd suggest adding is an acknowledgment that with Medium, Dorsey did to blogs what Twitter did to microblogs, put them inside a walled garden.

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc loved this!

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@jomc I don't have much to add, save that I share both your hope and doubt, and that I enjoyed the essay. I miss the 'small pieces loosely joined' days 😉 Thanks for the preview!

We Don't Need Corporate Social Media 

@cgbrooke thanks for reading Collin!

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